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Are we developing a taste for death, destruction and mutilation?

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In the few years since the invasion of Iraq by coalition forces and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's dictatorship, I have noticed a seed change in the way atrocities are reported by the media.
This trend began as western populations were increasingly exposed to the Middle East media outlets as the post war security operations began to falter. The 'sanitization' of media reports for western sensibilities was, initially, severe and widespread. Television news channels and major on-line news agencies followed historical convention regarding which visual content was deemed 'acceptable' to western viewers.
Local (Middle East) media outlets however, followed no such convention and the reality of death and mutilation was broadcast nightly, along with all of the other news stories.
This led to statements from the western media such as:
"Life appears to be valued less in Middle East Countries than it is in the west" and:
"People in the Middle East are accustomed to pictures of mutilation and death", being touted as justification for the regular 'civilized censorship' of pictures depicting the results of the violence and atrocities being committed in the region.
It appears now, that we (in the west) are also becoming accustomed to pictures of mutilation and death, as more and more graphic detail of the aftermath of suicide bombings and insurgent attacks are being broadcast and posted on 'mainstream' web portals.
Does it follow then that we also value life less than we did pre 2003?

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{"commentId":1113178,"authorDomain":"raatkiraani"}

I think this is symptomatic of modern living. I'm not sure if it is as much to do with world events in the post-911 era as with a general immunity by the masses to loss of human life and real suffering. We live in a more violent society because we have been fed a diet of more violence as part of our daily lives. Including real events as well as from the entertainment sector. The graphic, fictional stuff that we are more exposed to is also through much wider choice - TV, Film, Internet, Gaming etc.

The result is that the human mind is getting more acclimatised to more extreme acts of violence. And people in general are simply too lazy (or not bothered) to always make a distinction (in their mind's eye) to what's real and what's not. I do notmean that at a conscious level. I mean that at a sub conscious level. As less people complain (let's face it, someone like Mary Whitehouse would now be looked upon as an irritant rather than performing a useful social service). The first priority for media has been, and will always remain, to make a profit and remain competitive. Regulators are increasingly managed at arm's length from the state (and also run as private organizations).

Democratic societies have to embrace modernity and progress. How to do so and still ward off some of the ills will always remain mankind's bigger challenges. Possibly this kind of medium, bringing people from different walks of life, diverse mindsets and alternative views, could be the answer for society to develop more robust solutions without downsides. Collaboartive discovery etc etc.

Great article Eddie. I suggest adding your own first comment to an article. It is a way of your post enetring other people's conversation trackers. And get read wider.

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Reply#1 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:32 AM EDT
{"commentId":1113311,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}

Raat,
That's a valid viewpoint and probably a major contributing factor. I do feel however, that the recent exposure to worsening middle east conflicts and the rise in western viewing audiences to the [local] news media has contributed significantly.

Thanks for the tip!

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Reply#2 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":1114411,"authorDomain":"eric-albert"}

Eddie:

We must take the long historical view, and ideolgical long term corruption. Class republics were born already as failed democratic experiments, which explains the failure of the Enlightenment, and all democratic Western regimes to explain their class elites, class ideologies, class hiearachies, that make up the class mechanism between its deformed middle layers, and the oligarchy. Over time this generalized degeneration of democracy by class exlucsionary double standards, class laws, property laws, that began with commercial capitalism and African slavery, morphed into the slave camps of corporate fascist states and Jewish, socialist, trade unionist "free labor", slavery.

Today this corporate fascist state, and its fascist foreign policies have reproduced the very "banality of evil", the deformed middle class criminals, who went along with their class masters, corporations into torture, kidnappings, illegal aggression, occupations and dictatorial laws against habeus corpus, and legal rights. Failure to take on these class relations, and ideological failure, failed political classes is why we are called the United States of Amnesia.

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#2.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:57 PM EDT
{"commentId":1114435,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}

Eh?
Like wot I said

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#2.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:07 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1113364,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

I doubt whether we've become numb to or whether we've developed a desire for mayhem. On the other hand, the killers delight in their deeds.

On PBS's "The War," the program revealed that Americans went 21 months before they saw photos of dead soldiers, in Life magazine. I think from that point, there was a steady stream.

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Reply#3 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:27 PM EDT
{"commentId":1113407,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}
On PBS's "The War," the program revealed that Americans went 21 months before they saw photos of dead soldiers, in Life magazine. I think from that point, there was a steady stream.

So, what was it that forced the change in policy at Life magazine?
Probably something like this:

Life reporter: "Look, if we don't do it, they are going to see it anyway with all those Arab stations coming on line"

Life Editor: "Ok, but nothing too graphic at first, one step at a time"

The media has a paranoid fear of being left behind in trends and style. Once the genie is out of the bottle......

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Reply#4 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:38 PM EDT
{"commentId":1113445,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

I think the concern was Americans would lose their spirit and determination to win. Many things were kept from them by the government for a long time, some of it until after the war.

Before then, there were, of course, photos showing what the Japanese and Germans were doing.

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#4.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":1113910,"authorDomain":"electricblanket"}

Imagine how hard it would be to recruit for military if you saw the soldier victims of war. When you see children or other innocent "casualties of war," it makes war appear how it is---barbaric, incapable of bringing peace, an atrocity at every level.

With the war in Iraq, which a lot of the people of the world view as an unjustified invasion of a sovereign nation, the reporting of and posting of pictures showing the bloody consequences of bringing an armed conflict to a place where there wasn't one until the invasion strengthens the will of the people whom would view the US/coalition as the enemies.

Ending the war is the only way to end war. Killing more people, be they armed insurgents, members of terror cells, or some innocent bystander caught in the crossfire---will only inflame the situation more, making more enemies and the cascade effect of violence will continue until the world is ablaze with blood(money)lust.

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#4.2 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:14 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1113491,"authorDomain":"partisanhack"}

Well, we could say that we started to lose the value of life in any number of wars. The U.S. Civil War had its own images of thoughtless brutality. What's missing from this war is many of the images of its true brutality. We see very little combat footage, there's a higher degree of censorship than even in World War II. Generally all we see is the same general footage of burning car wrecks and pools of blood left over from corpses. So in one sense I wonder if Americans have seen ENOUGH of the violence.

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Reply#5 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:58 PM EDT
{"commentId":1113527,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}

Did you notice the front page on Newsvine this morning?

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#5.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:10 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1113526,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
It appears now, that we (in the west) are also becoming accustomed to pictures of mutilation and death, as more and more graphic detail of the aftermath of suicide bombings and insurgent attacks are being broadcast and posted on 'mainstream' web portals.

I do think we are being desensitized but have to disagree that coverage of the war has anything to do with it. Check out the shows that air on the networks and its blood and gore, perversions and ghastliness that is far more brutal and desensitizing than any news of the war horrors.

On the contrary our war coverage is largely burned out cars and the victims largely hidden from view.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:10 PM EDT
{"commentId":1113532,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}

Ditto my last post

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#6.1 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:11 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1113545,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}

Just a little poke to get it back on subject.
My article was not solely about American and British military deaths. But victims per se.
The front page on Newsvine this morning led with one of the most graphic images I have seen on mainstream media.
Did we not notice it then because the bodies were all Pakistani?

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Reply#7 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:15 PM EDT
{"commentId":1113598,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}

Pamela,
I was downstairs getting a coffee and I realised that my last post 'Ditto" was discourteous, I apologise.
You took the time to write a comment and should have done the same.

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Reply#8 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:31 PM EDT
{"commentId":1114603,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

Well they don't string people up at the village green any more so that's a plus. traffic still crawls round carnage gawking so nothing's changed too much in the death doom and distruction constant that is a part of human nature.
Politically though, attrocity has been used to wonderful effect. Trauma management is the preferred state of Govt it would seem. .

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Reply#9 - Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:25 PM EDT
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